I reject your buzzword, and substitute my own!

Cameron Moll recently invented "website re-alignment". That's marketing-speak for "Minor redesign", in which you change very little, and produce lots of reasons for not changing much.

Dan Cederholm recently discovered he really didn't like using the term "hack", for err.. hacking a stylesheet so it works in bad browsers. He suggested naming it a "patch". I suggest, just make the CSS work, and don't worry about how you are going to talk to some PR-guy about what you did technically.

Anne van Kesteren switched from HTML to XHTML, to XHTML2, to HTML4.01, to HTML5. I forget where we are now. Since he closed his comments on his latest inflammatory post: Anne; XHTML has its place in society, just like HTML. If you don't know how to make XHTML work in large scale websites, that's not a problem in the spec. And if you are afraid of potential flamewars, maybe you should consider not to post these articles at all.

Web 2.0. By god. don't get me started. Strangely, I haven't ever had clients screaming for "AJAX Web2.0 social experiences". Besides, we are on Web 4.0 right now, counting ARPA-net and Usenet. Stop thinking of ways to make your work sound cool. It's getting old.

While we are on the topic of baseless hype, let's bring up Mint again. Let's all get crazy because some a-lister releases something. But I hear you cry "The site is so cooool and gorgeous!!1!1!!". Yes, and if Zeldman sells his broken toilet on ebay, you would probably buy that too.

Flock. Okay. best quote ever:

I do think the way we look at the internet is about to change dramatically. And with the open source movement getting further into the mainstream of business, programmes like Flock have a better chance than ever of shaping the change.news.bbc.co.uk

Wow. That's impressive for Firefox and some integrated extensions.

I would love to see web standards bloggers focussing more on the technology to make websites work the way we want them, instead of thinking up names for all the stuff. Clients really don't care how many buzzwords you apply on their website, they just want it to work. Oh hey, I attacked some A-list bloggers. I guess soon Nazi's riding dinosaurs will once again walk the earth, and rivers of lava will flow freely across the land.

Update: Faruk took my post a step further.

– Hayo

Discussion

Arie 30 Oct 2005 Hey you know, you can put your content in a certain flavor of XML and make it available for your audience. That way they can read your site without even visiting it. Great 'ey? I call it 'textcasts'.

Anne van Kesteren 30 Oct 2005 What kind of assumptions do you make here? Why would I not know how to make it work? Also, XHTML is nothing more than being buzzword-compliant. And some posts look better without comments.

Jochem 30 Oct 2005 Anne van Kesteren:
*waddlewaddlewaddle*
FACE!
;)

Zach Inglis 30 Oct 2005 Haha @ Jochem.

Nah, I do agree on Mint and Web 2.0.

I have a copy of Mint and well as I have said, Shaun Inman has only been coding PHP since he started to make Mint and the program itself, always comes with a major bug or two. I also find it too expensive, i purely bought it because the demo wasn't working, I wanted a quick stats program and I presumed it was as good as it was worth. Everyone was defending it.

I can't wait till Measure Map though, that looks good.

ronb 31 Oct 2005 To the best of my knowledge the term web did not get coined until the the whole www. thing got sterted. So technicallilly arpa and usenet where before those days and Web2.0 is correct termomology.

tristan 31 Oct 2005 sheesh Hayo, never seen you so riled up ;D.

website re-alignment. is that like a sex xhange, for a website?

i just had a quick look at Mint. it's pretty cool, it does all the same things as the built in cPanel stats cruft, except that it costs money. and is green!

Jochem 31 Oct 2005 ronb, if you want to get nitpickey, we're on web 3.0
* web 1.0 was the static, HTML only web
* web 2.0 was the start of the dynamic website, the advent of the server side scripting language, what you call web 1.0
* web 3.0 is the community based website, relying heavily on both server and client side scripting.

Shaun Inman 31 Oct 2005 Zach says: "...as I have said, Shaun Inman has only been coding PHP since he started to make Mint and the program itself..."

You need to check your sources on that Zach. Just because you say it doesn't make it so. And I'm not sure what "major bugs" you're talking about. In the future please submit a bug report instead of slandering me on other people's sites.

Mint never hyped itself as being "Web 2.0". I hate empty expressions as much as the next guy. And I've never been an A-lister. And those that are didn't put their links on hundreds or thousands of blogrolls and link lists. Hate the game, not the players. Better yet, don't hate anything and do something constructive.

Hayo Bethlehem 31 Oct 2005 Shaun, thanks for your comment.

I completely understand your point of view, and would like to add my target was, in fact, the game. I noticed some A-listers were "marketing" Mint on the sole basis of it looking cool, which, admittedly, it does. However, when asking for what the cool features were, little information could be found. So probably, outside of your control, a Baseless Hype formed. And that's what this article (or, rant if you prefer) was about.

AJAX has very interesting uses and implications. The contents of the "Web 2.0" are quite interesting. This all is about the name game, which got me annoyed. I do hope Mint developes into an awesome product, and wish you lots of succes.

Zach Inglis 31 Oct 2005 >>You need to check your sources on that Zach. Just because you say it doesn't make it so.

Thanks for that! I had no clue.
Obviously I have been misinformed, I apoligise about that. I misread you saying that you learnt more on it (in the CSS-SCC original post).

You know about the problems im talking about such as there was a need to have one hit before updating the whole system, which there was and it still mucked up for me still, loosing my best month of hits (it was last few days of the month too).

I submitted a bug on the forum since 18th October without a reply. I am still having that problem.
The demo has been down since it started.

When MeasureMap does come out, I will be getting it. Mint is pretty bare as a package without the 'peppers' expecially for $30. Even MeasureMap has a free version and im sure there'll be more functionality to that than Mint.

AkaXakA 02 Nov 2005 Don't attack the players when you hate the game Hayo...

And what the heck is wrong with Anne's post?

Hayo 02 Nov 2005 James, the players keep the game alive. The reason for targetting Anne on this one was his blatant HTML fanboi-ism. But I think he's well aware of Faruk and my opinion on that :D

Anne van Kesteren 02 Nov 2005 You do not have to read my weblog. It is only as blatant as you want it to be.

(I disagree with the term "HTML fanboi-ism" by the way, I'm just pointing out the obvious.)

owen 02 Nov 2005 I've been waiting for that mint demo like forever.

AkaXakA 03 Nov 2005 Fans keep the game alive Hayo..it's always been the fans..

Rob Mientjes 06 Nov 2005 Urging me to reply here, Anne. "I'm just pointing out the obvious" is one of the lamest responses or defences I have ever seen, and you know it.

"Oh, don't be so negative." - "I'm only being realistic." *shoots through head*

Jeremy Epstein 12 Nov 2005 I couldn't agree more with your feeling that web designers / developers are inventing too many stupid buzzwords. I actually wrote my own anti-buzzword post a few weeks ago - see http://www.greenash.net.au/posts/thoughts/web_2_nauseating_buzzwords - expressing my disgust at the heavy use of buzzwords by some really elite web designers. I don't know why it is that such smart people, all over the world, are not only getting caught up in the hype, but are actually creating it themselves!

Zach Inglis 24 Nov 2005 Even after I mention all the bugs, with the latest version you need to upgrade to one version then another version to get it to work -_-

One non-buzzword to describe it: Shoddy

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